The Argument Dividing Democrats

It is in the vested interest of the GOP, and several foreign entities: Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, UAE, etc., that Donald Trump remains in the White House. The GOP knows Donald Trump is the end of their party, but his greed and malleability enable them to govern on behalf of their lobbyists and donors, and for their self-enrichment… they’ll stuff their pockets as long as they can. And they will lie, steal and cheat to keep him in office, for as long as they can.

Bill Barr was chosen to be Attorney General, by Donald Trump, because of his belief that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

Because the U.S. has never been in a situation like this, there is no precedent. Nothing in the constitution, pertaining to the powers each branch of government holds over the others with regards to criminality within, has been tested, although a federal panel of judges dismissed all 83 ethics complaints filed against Supreme Court Brett I(LikeBeer) Kavaneugh when he was sworn in.

Robert Mueller is an agent of the Department of Justice, and as he explains in his report, he is bound by the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel guidelines. He says those guidelines do not give him the authority to indict a sitting President.

But does congress have that authority?

“Although the president has broad authority under article II, that authority coexists with Congress’s Article I power to enact laws that protect congressional proceedings, federal investigations, the courts, and grand juries against corrupt obstructive acts.”

Volume II, Page 160 👇🏼

In his report, Robert Mueller establishes multiple (10) episodes of prima facie obstruction of justice.

1. “The Trump campaign’s response to reports about Russian support for Trump” – the response was to try ascertain whether or not Wikileaks had more e-mails to release,

2. “Conduct involving FBI Director Comey and Michael Flynn” – asking Comey to let the Flynn thing go,

3. “The President’s reaction to the continuing Russia investigation” – asking AG Sessions to un-recuse himself,

4. “The President’s termination of Comey” – from the report: “The day after firing Comey, the president told Russian officials that he had ‘faced great pressure because of Russia,’ which had been ‘taken off’ by Comey’s firing. The following day, the president acknowledged in a television interview that he had been planning to fire Comey regardless of the DOJ’s recommendation and that when he ‘decided to just do it,’ he thought that ‘this thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.'”

5. “The appointment of Special Counsel and efforts to remove him” – “Oh my God, this is terrible, this is the end of my presidency. I’m fucked!”  After that exclamation, Trump told Deputy AG Rosenstein, to tell White House attorney, McGahn, that Mueller had conflicts of interest and must be removed. 

6. “Efforts to prevent public disclosure of evidence” – he tried to cover up the “nothing burger” meeting with a Russian lawyer, to get Hillary dirt. Mr. Trump ordered his aides “not to publicly disclose the emails setting up the June 9 meeting, suggesting that the email would not leak and that the number of lawyers with access to them should be limited.” He dictated a lie for his son, to say the meeting was regarding “Russian adoptions.”

7. “Further efforts to have the Attorney General take control of the investigation” – Trump still riding the Keebler Elf, also instructed him to investigate Hillary.

8. “Efforts to have McGahn deny that the President had ordered him to have the Special Counsel removed” -Trump wanted McGahn to say he told Rosenstein to fire Mueller without prompting from him and to write a note saying as much.

9. “Conduct towards Flynn, Manafort, [Redacted]” – He wanted them to share information with regards to questions SC Mueller asked them. – Tweets that praised them as brave and honorable.

10. “Conduct involving Michael Cohen” – tweets that went from “stay strong” to calling him “a rat.”

Were Donald not president, he would have been indicted— that’s a fact, Jack.

Mueller stated:

“With respect to whether the President can be found to have obstructed justice by exercising his powers under Article II of the Constitution, we concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a President’s corrupt use of his authority to protect the integrity of the administration of justice,” ~Robert Mueller

How does congress prohibit the President’s abuse of power— through impeachment or indictment? Either, right?

I’m asking because I don’t agree with what I’ve heard.

The argument as to whether it is within the powers of Congress to indict the president will be mulled over (pun intended), in the coming weeks, I hope.

Regardless, Trump’s obstructive actions, without question, are grounds for impeachment, and Congress must follow through.

Trump’s many conspiratorial behaviors, covered in Volume 1 of the Mueller Report, are also absolutely impeachable offenses, despite Mueller’s belief that there is not enough evidence to indict— because of the destruction of evidence, invocation by witnesses of the 5th Amendment, lying among witnesses, and limitations put on the SC.

In addition to trading sanction relief for campaign help, Trump is guilty of accepting bribes. He has also been compromised with threats of a sex tape, which may or may not exist. The danger of one exists, and that has had Trump on edge his entire term.

“The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law,” ~Robert Mueller

Let’s assume (the impeachable) AG Bill Barr is correct, that Donald Trump, the acting president (and he is acting), cannot be indicted; there is nothing to prevent a president from being charged after he leaves the the the office.

He will leave office in one of the following ways:

  • Resignation- doubtful
  • Impeachment- based on a vote by Congress
  • Election loss in 2020.
  • Hauled away in handcuffs- is looking like a pipe dream.
  • Dementia— he wanders off and is never heard from again.
  • The statute of limitations on the crimes cited in Mueller’s report stands at five years; Trump could be charged he to leave office following the 2020 election. If somehow (Russia) he pulls off a win again, Congress will have very little time to act.

    The argument dividing Democrats is whether to impeach or wait.

    I had a discussion over lunch with a person who, like Nancy Pelosi, thinks we need to wait until 2020 and then indict Trump.

    The valid argument was that unless nine Republican senators commit to impeaching, Mitch McConnell will shut it down. This person believes that this would unite Trump’s base… (they’re already joined), leading to massive losses in 2020.

    So this is a political decision rather than one based on national security, of which Trump is a threat.

    My argument is that interference in the 2020 election is a valid concern, considering 2016, 2018, Brexit. The GOP is fighting every attempt to secure our elections, because the only way their party can exist is by cheating.

    And think about the damage Trump can do in 18 months. Look at what he has done in the last 18 months. He will push through more unqualified and unethical federal judges, and do what he can to change policies in order to protect himself.

    So what can we do? We have to see the un-redacted report; we need to hear Mueller testify, and we can only hope enough criminal behavior is uncovered that the GOP will no longer be able to pretend it doesn’t exist.

    There is no perfect answer.

    But there are always numbers:

    • 215 criminal charges
    • 38 indictments or pleas
    • 5 prison sentences
    • 500 search warrants
    • 2800 subpoenas
    • 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence
  • ~~
    • 20 ongoing federal and state investigations
    • 14 referred Mueller prosecutions
    • 2+ ongoing counterintelligence investigations
    • 1 pending impeachable felony charge in NYC
    • 1 pending impeachable felony before Congress
    • 100+ Congressional subpoenas coming


    The man who investigated Bill Clinton for 5 years, then impeached him for lying about consensual sex, releasing his entire un-redacted report to the public immediately, Ken Starr, says Democrats shouldn’t pursue impeachment of Trump because “it’s so bad for the country”

    Federal Panel Of Judges Dismisses All 83 Ethics Complaints Against Brett Kavanaugh

    Kenneth Starr Cautions Those Seeking To Impeach President Trump

    Republicans block $250 million to beef up election security

    The Redacted Mueller Report 👇🏼👇🏼

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